12:26 < kReV> [Yahoo news article about California and Compact Fluorescent bulbs]
12:26 < kReV> Lighting changes...
12:28 <@solios> CF lights are annoying.
12:28 <@solios> I tried them.
12:28 <@solios> the box said they'd last five years.
12:28 <@solios> first power surge in the house? killed ALL of them. dead.*
12:28 <@solios> and it's not like you can stick a ups on the ceiling lights.
12:29 < kReV> And generally they don't fit that well into old lamps.
12:29 < kReV> You can *make* them fit...but...gah.
12:29 <@solios> yes
12:30 <@solios> my issue is the price compared to the actual longevity vs. advertised longevity.
12:30 * solios uses generic 70 watt bulbs, iirc.
12:30 <@solios> and they last forfuckingever.
12:30 < kReV> I do too.
12:30 <@_Lasar> And cost nothing.
12:30 < kReV> Dad works in a lightbulb plant...so mine actually *do* cost nothing.
12:30 <@_Lasar> haha
12:31 < kReV> He comes home with a big box full of unpackaged bulbs.
12:31 < kReV> They last FOREVER.
12:36 < kReV> I wonder what kind of cutbacks this legislator is getting from Philips.
12:36 <@solios> shitloads, would be my guess.
12:40 < kReV> This article goes on and on about how much energy they save and how much less wattage it takes...but it doesn't mention what happens with power surges and spikes.
12:40 < kReV> Which, if I remember correctly, Pittsburgh got those a LOT.
12:40 <@solios> probably because every single test case was done in a controlled environment.
12:40 <@solios> boy fucking howdy.
12:40 <@solios> you should see work in the summer. The UPSses buzz and chirp several times a day.

* I'm exaggerating, but only slightly. Four CF bulbs lasted less than four months. The normal (1/8th the price) incandescent bulbs last over a year.